In Conversation with Toni Shapiro-Phim

"It takes a certain patience and courage to listen to things that are quite different than who you have been or what you have experienced. But it also takes courage to unveil, to reveal what it is that you've held."

John Paul Lederach in conversation with Toni Shapiro-Phim, Associate Professor of Creativity, the Arts, and Social Transformation and Assistant Director of the Program in Peacebuilding and the Arts, International Center for Ethics, Justice and Public Life. An interview on the occasion of John Paul’s receipt of the Joseph B. and Toby Gittler Prize at Brandeis University.

Lederach, John Paul. In Conversation with Toni Shapiro-Phim. Interview by Toni Shapiro-Phim. Video recording, October 30, 2019.

Recorded at and shared with the permission of Brandeis University.

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